
12 Simon Smart speaking at Narwee Baptist
19 John Dickson at CCC Lane Cove
24 10th Anniversary Smith Lecture by Professor Edwin Judge
Response to global atheism series
6. Does faith make sense?
Greg Clarke
Faith really is becoming the ‘f’ word of today in some circles. It is uttered with contempt by many atheists today, and atheism is sometimes offered as the mature alternative to faith. But the definition of faith among the New Atheists is a peculiar one. So Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith, calls it “unjustified belief”. Richard Dawkins says faith is “blind trust, in the absence of evidence, even in the teeth of evidence”. And philosopher A.C. Grayling labels it “a commitment to belief contrary to evidence and reason”.
As a Christian, I don’t recognise any of these definitions.
In the Christian tradition, it has been by far the most common to see faith as a conviction that grows out of ‘encounter’ with God. This ‘encounter’ takes many and various forms, be it the sort of experience of God reported in the Hebrew Bible (e.g. the words of the prophets, the Law, the narratives of Israel’s history, proverbs, the voice of God in a burning bush), or the personal encounters with Jesus Christ that are recorded in the pages of the Gospels, or the ‘textual encounter’ (for want of a better term!) that people have today when they read or hear the words of the Bible and come to believe that those words are the truth about God.
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| 16-Apr-2010 06:43 PM | |
| Greg,Just one small comment about this section. I have found in my discussions with atheists that it is important to point out to them that they are also 'believers'. I.e They believe in the non existence of God, materialism. It is not belief versus knowledge but actually one belief versus another belief. This shifts the discussion onto whether the belief is reasonable or not. We need to point this out to them, becuase they have taken the high ground that they have knowledge we have faith. This is incorrect. The cannot 'prove' their position anymore than we can. I have found this approach immensely helpful in discussion. Anyway, the rest is great keep up the good work! Mike | |
| 29-Apr-2010 06:36 PM Peter Hinchley | |
| I suspect most Christians initially enter the faith, not based on logical reasoning, but rather subjective experience. It is at this point, however, that they then accept, carte blanche, a wealth of theological doctrine that is beyond critique and rational enquiry. We could have a healthy debate about many topics, appealing to research data and experimentation to arrive at a shared conclusion. However, if you and I were to debate theological principles such as reincarnation, the existence of one god or many, the reality of the soul, the nature of heaven, etc, we will quickly arrive at a dead end. The fact that the world's population is split across conflicting world religions is a testament to this point. While faith makes sense to Christians, a different faith also makes sense to Hindus, Buddhists, and Muslims. When we cannot debate the tenets of these faiths with respect to some objective reality, our dialogue must come to an abrupt end; as Sam Harris has said: faith is the ultimate conversation killer. And a quick follow up to the previous commenter: whilst some atheists firmly believe in the non-existence of God, for many atheists, and agnostics, the absence of belief cannot be equated with active disbelief. I suspect many people, like myself, are not certain that a god doesn't exist; we just don't see a reason to claim that he does exist. | |
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